301. David Cameron & The Pig / Bad Gig Story / Who is Ronnie Pickering?

In this episode I’m going to have a bit of a ramble about some stuff that’s in the news at the moment and a few other things that have come into my brain. I’m not going to teach you anything specific in this one, no language anyway – just some bits and pieces about modern day British life. So generally I’m just going to keep you company for a while and talk to you one to one for the duration of the episode. Just you and me, and perhaps a bus load of commuters.

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Here’s a made-up agenda for the episode:

1. The UK political situation, and trending news relating to it – this is less boring than you might expect because it seems from recent reports that our Prime Minister David Cameron once had sex with a dead pig. Seriously. (Did PM David Cameron really have sex with a pig? What’s all this about Jeremy Corbyn? What’s going on?)
2. “Sorry, we’re English”
3. Tell a story or anecdote about something.
4. Who is Ronnie Pickering?

In the next episode:
5. A trip to the dentist in Paris.
6. Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens – I can hardly contain my excitement, but I am attempting to avoid the hype.
7. OPP: The Adam Buxton Podcast
8. In my headphones recently: The Juan MacLean “A Simple Design”, The Who: “Who Are You?”, Erland Oye: “Lies become part of who you are”, DJ Krush & Ronny Jordan: “Bad Brothers”, Leyla McCalla: “Heart of Gold”. (Plus, the intro song: “Groove Holmes” by Beastie Boys)
9. Jingle news: Possible new jingle in the pipeline
10. Jarvis Cocker
11. That’s probably it, isn’t it?

  • That’s very fun episode, especially situation in the bar when Luke said for this guy who makes head massages, wow that’s very fun place itself no need of stand up comedy :D

  • ptholome/Antonio

    I disagreed with the Cameron part of this podcast because you say that maybe it is not true. I think it is not good to speak about something which is proved. This man has a family and children. We need to be careful about this kind of things. However, what want the Lord who write now about it and not before? It seems this Lord doesn’t care about anything but him. You have not spoken about the possibility that Cameron could have told him. F… you as.h..le.

    In France, the newspapers destroyed the life of a politician and his family and after months of persecution the newspaper told he was wrong and the politician was innocent. Sorry!

    Affaire Baudis. the mayor of Toulouse.

    Maybe a good topic would be about those students’ select clubs at the University.

    This topic make me think about a question: It is worst to put your thing on the mouth of a death pig or on the mouth of a young girl like a famous President did and didn’t resign?. Even his wife didn’t ask to be divorced and now she is running for the Presidency of the USA.

    I think we shouldn’t speak about something when it is not proved. Because we all know that innocent people has even died because falses accusations. We are innocent until anyone can prove the contrary. This is a great Democratic rule we have to follow all the time.

    • Fair enough. That’s a sobering thought indeed.
      But, whether or not it’s true what I think the story is really about is the nature of our ruling establishment in the UK and what they really believe. Do they have the best interests of the people at heart, or is power something they feel is owed to them because of social status.
      Also, I believe the £50 note thing is worse, and in fact the pig scandal is shocking when you first think about it but is ultimately quite harmless when you know it’s part of an immature game run by drunk students. Nevertheless, yes I admit it’s a bit irresponsible to speculate about it when it’s not proven. Thanks for the comment.

  • Yaron

    Nice one. It is more fun when you don’t beep the swear words.

  • Hi Luke, thank you for talking about the UK political situation, I like it. And thanks to the previous 3 episodes about the UK general election, I’ve learned a lot because they’re really informative especially for a person like me who have no clue about this thing at all.

    And… about the swear words in this ep. I like them too. I mean, in this context, I don’t see any problems with using them to tell the story. Moreover, the way you mentioned and explained swear words, including in other episodes has helped me quite a lot to understand many of them used in English language films, series, songs, TV shows, and so on. :)

  • Anonymous

    “maybe by the end of the episode I will have chosen some sort of title” I am reading and listening to a ton of English content including podcasts, TV series, cartoons and books and this is very first time when someone is using the future perfect tense, really.
    It seems that you just show off, like “Look, I am Luke, English teacher and I know how to use all the possible British language tenses!”. Instead maybe you can focus on removing the swear words from your podcast, that became annoying!

    • Actually that use of a future tense was completely uncontrived and spontaneous. Also, it’s funny that you ask for swear words to be removed because I also got comments from people complaining when I bleep them out.

      • Aritz

        More swear words here please!! That´s real English too!

      • ptholome/Antonio

        Sorry, we are not in the USA TV. This is a free Podcast. The teacher of the podcast is the master of it and only him can decide what to do or not. We students are here listening or writing in a positive and educate way when we feel we are learning from Luke.
        Besides, you need to learn how and when to swear also because it is what you hear on the movies, read or hear on the streets when you are on an English country.

        In Spain, I used to swear depending the circumstances, but when I went to France I couldn’t swear like French people did for years because you need to come out your fury when people bother you. For example: when you are driving people swear a lot at others when they make wild maneuvers, at work, or even in your house when your child do some unexpected bad action. Nom de dieu, je vais te casser la gueule si tu continues! Mais quel connard, quel connard. Qu’est ce que j’ai fait Bon Dieu pour avoir un fils comme celui ci!

        Yes, to learn how and when to swear at something or somebody is also important.

        What I love on Luke’s podcast is the natural way he is speaking. His freedom. He is educated, joyful, entertaining, funny, hard worker, and a good teacher from my point of view.

        You can’t start putting barriers telling him, Do that, Don’t do that. That is good and that is not. Of course, you can like it or not and you can be here or go away. But remember the lentils Spanish dish.

        But first of all, you need to have the courage to show him who you are instead to write under an anonymous state.This is not a politic podcast. I understand it when people living in difficult countries and they comment on certain politic webs, but no when you are learning English.


    • And by the way, people use the future perfect tense all the time!

      • Anonymous

        Maybe you can drop a couple of real samples in the next podcast? I would also love to find the examples of using the future perfect + passive voice, like “some sort of title will have been chosen at the end of the episode”..OMG that sounds terrible.

      • If I come across real examples I’ll certainly note them. I assure you, it’s a living verb form.
        Perhaps the combination of future perfect + passive makes this one seem incongruous. I disagree that it sounds terrible of course. It’s not that bad, and not as awkward as you say.

      • Anonymous

        That’s interesting that first you say “people use the future perfect tense all the time” and then “If I come across real examples I’ll certainly note them” which implies that you really don’t know any real examples which rejectes your first statement! What’s wrong with you Luke?

      • Hey, don’t be rude.
        Do you think I have a bunch of real examples just saved somewhere?
        You say that you’ve listened to loads of podcasts and you’ve never heard this tense being used. That’s wrong because you heard it used in mine. Still, you consider this to be evidence of me just showing off or something. I could go on but actually I remember from previous comments you’ve made that I shouldn’t really pay much attention to what you write here because you’re just trolling me, or trying to be funny, so never mind.

      • Anonymous

        Ok, I will not be rude, but could you be so kind to clarify your statement and tell me which previous comments you are referring to?

      • You’ve written on my site before haven’t you?

      • Anonymous

        Hm…do you mean that you seen the comments sent by Anonymous user before and guess that they are all authored by the same person?

      • No. I don’t know your identity or anything, but all comments come with a unique code so I know when the same person is commenting. Also, it wasn’t hard to notice because your comments had a similar tone to others I’ve had, and yep it’s the same user.

      • Anonymous

        Bravo detective Thompson! You got it!

      • Anonymous

        Also, I thougt that good english teacher should be able to produce real-life example of any grammar rule immideately if a student asks for it. If you are not able to do that then maybe you are not professional teacher and it’s just too early to think about your own ESL program ;)

      • When you say ‘real world examples’ what do you mean? Shall I just dip into the ether and pick out some examples of when other people have used this tense before? A quick search on Google should do that.
        Also, mine was a real world example. When I said that sentence in this episode it wasn’t contrived.
        And now you’re just insulting me by questioning my professional credentials. What’s up man? Why are you getting all aggro?

      • Anonymous

        Oh, so your answer to student’s question is “gust google it!”? All right then, have a nice career with this approach LOL LOL LOL

      • Actually, googling a phrase is accepted as a quick way to get samples of that phrase being used, particularly if you put the search in speech marks and use a news search. For example a search for “will have chosen” using google news turns up these results:
        TIME magazine: “By July 2016, the party will have chosen its candidate for president, and the DNC hopes that the losing candidates will fall in line.”
        Digital Journal: “At this time, the court expects that they will have chosen 3 cases from the heart attack claims category”
        BBC News: “If, as the polls suggest, Jeremy Corbyn emerges victorious Labour will have chosen its most left-wing leader since Keir Hardie”
        Also, here are some examples of “will have been chosen”.
        The Guardian: “Acting leader says winner of leadership contest will have been chosen through a valid process”
        Montreal Gazette: ““The goal is that someone will have been chosen around the end of 2015, beginning of 2016,” Fleming said.”
        Times Live: “At the end of October 2015, 30 teams will have been chosen via all entry channels.”

      • Anonymous

        Okay! So if someone will ask you about the future perfect examples you will be able to recall this dialog and drop these sentenses immideatly. I am actually being helpful as you can see)

      • Aritz

        I find the future perfect tense quite normal if it´s required to be used. I don´t think there´s an intention from Luke to show himself off by using it! In Spanish we have excatly the same future tense and it´s really common!

      • ptholome/Antonio

        Anonimous. I don-t know why Luke is answering you. If you continue been hidden. Yes you were rude. And you continue been rude. Luke is a teacher and we are free to listen his podcasts. On the other hand. He told on he beginning of this one that it is a non prepared podcast so it is normal that at this precise moment, when he was recording, to have not any example to give ready. Because it is not important really. He says that people use them often and it is enough. He is the teacher and knows better than us. He is helping us not passing a test for teaching.

        However. to be hidden after a lot of comments in this forum is a kind of lack of education in Spain, in France and in England.
        So be polite and stop been hidden.
        Or if you think he is not the good teacher you need, you have to go away to seek out a better one for you.

      • ptholome/Antonio

        I don’t know the grammar even in my own language. But to know some examples I only need to write “future perfect tense” on my navigator and I have that: grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/tenses/future_perfect.htm

        Really? You even don’t want to make this simple effort to seek out what you need? Come on, Mr anonymous!

        I can tell you that I am saving money and in three years I will have saved money enough to buy a new car. Also, I have not a job either my wife and before my retirement I will have spent all my savings. So you can see that it is not difficult to have examples without luke’s help.

        You have written that you have listened to tons of podcasts, etc, etc… Maybe you have only heard them because it is difficult to remember everything we are hearing and only sometimes listening. My wife says to me: I don’t ask you to hear me but to listen to me. It is not the same thing Mr anonymous.

    • ptholome/Antonio

      In Spain we say to people doing this kind of comments: “esto es como las lentejas, o las comes o las dejas”

      we can translate it in a simple way: This is like a dish of lentils, you eat them or you let them

  • Aritz

    Bloody funny episode this one Luke! Couldn’t stop laughing while running in the park and listening to it! Can´t wait for the second part!
    Btw when a comedy show in London????

  • Zdenek Lukas

    Hey Luke, cool episode. Funny topics. Can’t wait to hear part 2. Two things that appeared in this episode reminded me of something else I have seen/heard before. I experienced a double dejavu so to speak :)

    a) That David Cameron pig scandal was not dissimilar to theme of first episode of a great recent British sci-fi TV show called Black Mirror.

    b) I have recently watched a video of “My name is Jeff.” mash-up. And it works in exactly the same way as the mash-up video you played to give more tribute to Ronnie Pickering. I heard about “my name is Jeff thing” several times from different sources and I never knew what it was about until I decided to google it and apparently it comes from a film 22 Jump Street.

    • Zdenek Lukas

      pay tribute (collocation correction) :)

    • Yes, I love Black Mirror and Charlie Brooker (the guy who wrote it) is generally one of my favourite people. Sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction! I haven’t seen the “My name is Jeff” video but I’ll check it out.

  • Handsome

    luke the thing i really love about you is that you yourself enjoy while teaching..and you teach us convoluted sentences and vocab without making it look patronizing…..best teacher of my life..

  • One-of-a-kind ! It is loaded with plenty of creative deep-thoughts . You need to have great culture of thinking in order to understand this mind-blowing content . Regardless of rude language , it turned out to be out of this world . It’s one in a million ! Just walk on the wild side with your company ! Thanks for rambling about real modern day British life !